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from delivery numbers, it looks that by now ,there is more train delivered then Beijing-Shanghai night train requires.Whre are the other routes those 2 types of sleepers run presently and will in future?

By: Roman at Oct 6, 2010 - 12:57
Sorry I am not very clear about your meanings.

By: Ken at Oct 7, 2010 - 0:56
Hi Ken,

If you look at this table:
Chinese CRH trainsets deliver timetable in this link:

then by now China has
CRH1E -11 delivered and 9 to be deleviered in 2011 and
CRH2E-20 delivered.

Shanghai-Beijing has 5 pairs=10 nightly trains daily.
It seems that there is already 29 tains deleivered.So where the other 19 routes?


By: Roman at Oct 7, 2010 - 5:45
15 CRH1E trains have been delivered. However the operator(Shanghai railway bereau) didn't put all of them in services. The possible reasons are 1, there are not enough staffs (drivers,mechanics, hostesses ect) as most of them are serving the newly operated Shanghai-Nanjing Intercity railway.2, The Ministry of Railways didn't approve the request from the operator to add services on the line,

Some of the CRH2E trains are transferred to Fuzhou-Xiamen highspeed railway services since there is not enough seat trains for the short railway.

By: Lewis at Oct 7, 2010 - 14:57
Thanks Lewis for this info.

With 40 high speed train to be delivered in total,do you kniw what are the long term plans for their utilizations?What routes?

Any thoughts about the future of CRH1s and CRH2s between Beijing and Shanghai once high speed line will get opened?


By: Roman at Oct 8, 2010 - 19:10
I mean 40 "high" speed night trains:20 CRH1E and CRH2E.

By: Roman at Oct 8, 2010 - 19:11
In fact the 40 sleeper CRH trains are now becoming the hot potatoes for the Ministry of Railways.
Previously the sleeper CRH trains were serving on routes between Beijing-Fuzhou and Qingdao-Wuhan but soon the services are suspended because of a lack of passengers resulted by the reasonbly high prices.
It seems that only the businessmen from Beijing, Shanghai and some in Hangzhou, Wuxi or Nanjing can cope with the price for the CRH soft sleepers. In the future the majority of them will choose to travel by the new high-speed CRH trains which only need less than 4 hours to complete the trip. The overnight trains will still serve on the existed lines but I reckon only 1 or 2 can be remained.
So if the pricing system doesn't change, passengers from other places won't choose them because of the cost. (Especially most of the big cities in China will be linked by a high speed rail network and the market for the overnight CRH trains will be long-distance trip like from Beijing to Urumqi or Harbin to Guangzhou, and the passengers will certainly not to pay a huge amount of money on a overnight train services). For the railway operator, the future use of the 40 CRH sleeper trains remains a problem.

By: Lewis at Oct 13, 2010 - 0:6
I wonder if those trains could be used on high speed line on very long journey.

Hong Kong/Guangzhou-Beijing when that high sped line is completed. Granted the sleepers cannot go 350km/h but with the specified speed of 250km/h 12-12 hours should be achievable. Beijing-Fuzhou should also be shortened but still a nigh ride one Beijing-Shanghai is HSR.Remains to be seen if China will allow HSR to be used at night time.

By: Roman at Oct 14, 2010 - 14:41
Probably no way. From 0am to 4 am everyday, the high speed railways have to be closed for maintainance work. During this period not a single train is allowed on the line. So an overnight train running on HSR is almost impossible.
Now I come up with an idea but now sure whether it is feasible: A overnight sleeper train leaves Beijing Fengtai Station at 6 pm. After running 6 hours on the HSR line, it joins in the existed railway at Wuhan and keeps running. At 4 pm the train should approach somewhere in Zhuzhou, then it can rejoin in the HSR line, it will take another 3 hours to arrive in Guangzhou and a further 1 hour is needed for Hongkong, in which the destination time is 8 am.

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